From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Thu Jul 17 20:09:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24117 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:09:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6HIM0qJ022536; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 01:22:01 +0700 Received: from prometeo.rcp.net.pe (prometeo.rcp.net.pe [161.132.8.41]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6HILuqJ022531 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 01:21:58 +0700 Received: from [200.106.32.35] (helo=TLEILAXU.amauta.rcp.net.pe) by prometeo.rcp.net.pe with asmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19dD5S-000ECR-1s; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:02:38 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030717130028.03438918@amauta.rcp.net.pe> X-Sender: faia@amauta.rcp.net.pe X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 To: alac-admin@icann.org From: Erick Iriarte Ahon Cc: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Subject: [cctld-discuss] Internet Governance - WSIS Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:02:30 -0500 Status: RO Content-Length: 316 See: ICANN or ITU? Civil Society debates Internet Governance http://www.worldsummit2003.de/en/web/401.htm Erick Iriarte Ahon Alfa-Redi http://www.alfa-redi.org _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Fri Jul 18 15:31:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07935 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:31:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6IDj1qJ028983; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:45:02 +0700 Received: from webmail.mimos.my (webmail.mimos.my [192.228.137.150]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6IDiJqJ028976 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:44:21 +0700 Received: from webmail.mimos.my (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.mimos.my (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6IDP4v1061374 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:25:04 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from ramesh@mimos.my) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.mimos.my (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h6IDOurK061366 for cctld-discuss@wwtld.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:24:56 +0800 (MYT) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.mimos.my: www set sender to ramesh@mimos.my using -f Received: from ASt-Lambert-102-2-1-203.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr (ASt-Lambert-102-2-1-203.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.39.203]) by webmail.mimos.my (Horde) with HTTP for <00000348@webmail.mimos.my>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:24:55 +0800 Message-ID: <1058534695.0102ec0d54d07@webmail.mimos.my> From: Ramesh Kumar Nadarajah To: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] WSIS Draft Declaration of Principles - Para 44. References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030717130937.02e61df8@pop.community.net.uk> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030717130937.02e61df8@pop.community.net.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 193.252.39.203 Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:24:55 +0800 Status: RO Content-Length: 2757 This is a personal observation only. There seems to be a disconnect between those govt reps who attend GAC and those who are attending WSIS. As WSIS is being organised by ITU, most of the reps are from either Telecommunications Ministries or from the local embassies (either from embassies in France or Geneva). These people are very comfortable with the ITU process but know very little about ICANN, its history or its current attempt to evolve. One branch may be fully supportive of ICANN through its participation in GAC whereas another is much happier working with the ITU. Only in some instances are the same faces from GAC seen here. Whichever model you believe is better (i.e. ITU or ICANN) what you may wish to do is communicate with your government and make them aware of what is going on (i.e. the possible disconnect). Its better, even for governments, to make a decision with as much info as possible. In addition to the paragraph quoted by Richard Francis, you may also wish to take a look at para 8 of the Plan of Action which talks about hubs and root servers. Enjoy :-) - ramesh - Quoting Richard Francis : > > People - - > > http://www.itu.int/wsis/preparatory/prepcom/intersessional/index.html > > The following will be discussed at this afternoon's plenary meeting of > the > intercessional which I am observing: > > > 44 International Internet Management > > > The international management of the Internet should be democratic, > multilateral, transparent and participative with the full involvement > of > the governments, > intergovernmental > organisations, > private sector and civil society. This management should encompass both > technical and policy issues. This management should > > encompass > both technical and policy issues. While recognising that the private > sector > has an important role in the development of Internet at the technical > level, and will > > continue to take a lead role, the fast development of Internet as > the > basis of Internet society requires that governments, take a lead role, > in > partnership with all the other > > stakeholders, in developing and coordinating policies of the public > interests related to stability, security, competition, freedom of use, > protection of individual rights and > > privacy, sovereignty and equal access for all, among all the other > aspects, through appropriate [intergovernmental/international] > organisations. > > > Best regards > > Richard Francis > iGCL, Oxford > > +44 1993 898889 (T) > +44 7818 056318 (M) > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Mon Jul 21 01:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA13219 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:44:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6KNvMqJ017057; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:57:24 +0700 Received: from desire.actrix.co.nz (desire.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.164]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6KNuIqJ017043; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:56:19 +0700 Received: from chambers.gen.nz (wn-d137.connections.net.nz [202.154.130.137]) by desire.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA591531A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:36:38 +1200 (NZST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: ccnso-launching-group@icann.org, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org To: member@aptld.org, board@aptld.org, cctld-adcom@wwtld.org From: Peter Dengate Thrush In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9F756740-BB0A-11D7-801A-0003937BB88C@chambers.gen.nz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: APTLD recommend Peter Denagate Thrush to serve on ccNSO LG Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:33:53 +1200 Status: RO Content-Length: 1964 Dear all, Many thanks to the secretariat for organising this ballot, to all those candidates who volunteered their services, and to those who voted. Its an honour for me to be selected to serve the AP community this way, and I look forward to reporting progress. A reminder that the ICANN board resolution ( see; www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-26jun03.htm) provides that the launch group can seek other cctld managers to join with the launch group, to become the SO when there are 30 members. So, I hope that the other candidates will regard themselves as 'joined up", and that we can all work to set up the SO without delay. Regards Peter Dengate Thrush Senior Vice Chair APTLD +64 4 499 8959 +64 21 499 888 On Saturday, July 19, 2003, at 01:36 AM, Ian wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > This is APTLD. We have sought our members' expressions of interest in > serving on ccNSO Launching Group and undertaken a voting procedure, > APTLD would like to recommend our Senior Vice Chair Peter Denagate > Thrush to participate in the ccNSO Launching Group. He has served as > APTLD's board member since June 2000. He is experienced and we believe > that he will contribute a lot to ccNSO Launching Group in its future's > work. We hope that our recommendation will be taken into your > consideration. Thanks. > > Please find below Mr. Peter Denagate Thrush's CV for your reference. > Thanks. > > Peter is a former chair of InternetNZ, and is chairman of its > International Affairs Committee. He is a current board member of APTLD > (since June 2000) and its Senior Vice Chair. He has been active in > developing a role for the cctlds in relation to ICANN, serving as the > APTLD member of the cctlds international Administrative Committee. > > Sincerely, > > APTLD Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Mon Jul 21 18:46:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04352 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:46:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LH01qJ021077; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:00:02 +0700 Received: from cwgsy.net (mail.cwgsy.net [212.30.8.212]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LGx3qJ021045 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:59:05 +0700 Received: from isles.net [212.30.21.74] by cwgsy.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A72A15160110; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:39:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1C172A.4060007@isles.net> From: Nigel Roberts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccnso-launching-group@icann.org CC: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org, ga@centr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [cctld-discuss] ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:39:06 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 995 Folks: I understood (as a possible candidate myself for the CCNSO Launching Group in Europe) that the deadline for submission of expressions of interest was 18th July. After that time, I expected the names of those who have expressed interest to be made public immediately in order for the Regions may conduct elections to insure open, bottom up and transparent selection. I am concerned that three days after the closing of this list that this has not yet happened -- and that as a result the Regions may not be able to conduct free and fair elections in the short timescale now left available. It would be most unfortunate if the embryonic ccNSO was hobbled by dropping the ball at this stage after we have all worked so hard over many years to reach agreement with ICANN. Can I have an update on what is happening, please?? _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Mon Jul 21 19:37:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA05004 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:37:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LHt1qJ021329; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:55:01 +0700 Received: from www.io.io (www.io.io [194.205.62.108] (may be forged)) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LHsMqJ021322 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:54:23 +0700 Received: from nic.AC ([192.168.111.3]) by www.io.io (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA20750; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1C24C9.60605@nic.AC> From: Paul M Kane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nigel Roberts CC: ccnso-launching-group@icann.org, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org, ga@centr.org References: <3F1C172A.4060007@isles.net> In-Reply-To: <3F1C172A.4060007@isles.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: [centr-ga] ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:37:13 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 1807 Nigel I cannot speak for the Launching Group but we in Europe plan to be conducting elections should there be more than one candidate submitted to ICANN for the European Region. I cannot explain the delay in ICANN giving us the names of the candidates but please rest assured we will endeavour to conduct an open, free and fair election as soon as possible for the whole European Region (we have the mailing list prepared) once we have the information from ICANN and I am optimistic ICANN (and the Launching Group) will want to ensure the Launching Group has elected representatives from the regions to obtain its legitimacy/support. Please do not jump to conclusions - this is ICANN "2" - a new chapter ..... Best Paul Chairman CENTR Nigel Roberts wrote: > Folks: > > I understood (as a possible candidate myself for the CCNSO Launching > Group in Europe) that the deadline for submission of expressions of > interest was 18th July. > > After that time, I expected the names of those who have expressed > interest to be made public immediately in order for the Regions may > conduct elections to insure open, bottom up and transparent selection. > > I am concerned that three days after the closing of this list that this > has not yet happened -- and that as a result the Regions may not be > able to conduct free and fair elections in the short timescale now > left available. > > It would be most unfortunate if the embryonic ccNSO was hobbled by > dropping the ball at this stage after we have all worked so hard over > many years to reach agreement with ICANN. > > Can I have an update on what is happening, please?? > > > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Mon Jul 21 23:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08398 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:57:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LMD1qJ022768; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:13:02 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LMCeqJ022763 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:12:42 +0700 Received: from alf2 (leangen.uninett.no [158.38.60.11]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6LLqbTY002169; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:52:39 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: "'Nigel Roberts'" , Cc: , Message-ID: <010601c34fd2$69df1560$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F1C172A.4060007@isles.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [cctld-discuss] RE: [centr-ga] ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:52:37 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 1612 Dear Nigel, Unforunately I have been off-line since morning Saturday July 19. I will promptly follow up the selection of the 3rd European Launching Group Member on behalf of the Launching Group. Stay tuned! Best regards, Alf H > -----Original Message----- > From: ga-bounces+alf.hansen=uninett.no@lists.centr.org > [mailto:ga-bounces+alf.hansen=uninett.no@lists.centr.org] On > Behalf Of Nigel Roberts > Sent: 21. juli 2003 18:39 > To: ccnso-launching-group@icann.org > Cc: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org; ga@centr.org > Subject: [centr-ga] ccNSO Launching Group > > > Folks: > > I understood (as a possible candidate myself for the CCNSO Launching > Group in Europe) that the deadline for submission of expressions of > interest was 18th July. > > After that time, I expected the names of those who have expressed > interest to be made public immediately in order for the Regions may > conduct elections to insure open, bottom up and transparent selection. > > I am concerned that three days after the closing of this list > that this has not yet happened -- and that as a result the > Regions may not be able > to conduct free and fair elections in the short timescale now left > available. > > It would be most unfortunate if the embryonic ccNSO was hobbled by > dropping the ball at this stage after we have all worked so hard over > many years to reach agreement with ICANN. > > Can I have an update on what is happening, please?? > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 00:52:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08969 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:52:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LNB0qJ022990; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:11:00 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6LNAaqJ022985 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:10:37 +0700 Received: from alf2 (leangen.uninett.no [158.38.60.11]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6LMolTY014087; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:50:47 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: , Message-ID: <010901c34fda$868b8060$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [cctld-discuss] Procedure, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:50:47 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 1952 Dear European ccTLD Manager, On behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group (Bart Boswinkel and myself), I am with this message starting to implement the procedure to select the third European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. The procedure has been accepted in general by the CENTR Excom. 1) There has been a call for "Expression of interest" expiring July 18 2003. 2) There has been received more than one expression of interest from the European region. The following persons have expressed their interest: Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) .fr ccTLD Nigel Roberts .gg ccTLD Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) Petr Kral .cz ccTLD Jimmy Imossi .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) Arno Ahornegger Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration 3) Every ccTLD manager in the Europen region are invited to express his or her preference to me (with a copy to Bart) by email before the end of Friday this week, July 25 2003 2400 CET. The invitation is sent to the CENTR GA- and the ccTLD-discuss-lists. 4) I will count the votes and votes cast. Bart is on vacation, but he will check my counting when he is back). The candidate with most votes will be the preferred candidate. A condition is that at least 15 ccTLD managers from the European region have made their preferences clear. If this is not the case, Bart and I (the two existing European members of the ccNSO Launching Group) reserves the possibility to appoint a member from the list of candidates ourselves. I will distribute the ballot in my next message. The straw poll will be handled manually. Thank you, Alf Hansen on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group. _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 02:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10161 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M0Y1qJ023322; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:34:01 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M0XKqJ023317 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:33:22 +0700 Received: from alf2 (leangen.uninett.no [158.38.60.11]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6M0DUTY029734; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:13:30 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: "CENTR GA" , Message-ID: <010d01c34fe6$14e37830$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:13:29 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 2349 Dear European ccTLD Manager, This is an invitation to ccTLD managers in the European region, for a straw poll (not an election) as described in my previous message. Please select ONE candidate below as your preference for the position as the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. The following describes the authorities of the Lauching Group (taken from http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm ): "The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" (Resolution 03.109) shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN body. (Resolution 03.111)." Please select only ONE name by deleting all the others. Only ONE submission per European ccTLD Manager. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no Cc: bart@sidn.nl by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this week, July 25, 2003 at 2400 CET. Identification: Your country in the European region : Your European ccTLD two letter code : Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Your E-mail address : Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) .fr ccTLD Nigel Roberts .gg ccTLD Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) Petr Kral .cz ccTLD Jimmy Imossi .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) Arno Ahornegger Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Thank you for your cooperation! Best regards, Alf Hansen on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group. _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 10:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17445 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:43:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M8u1qJ025245; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:56:02 +0700 Received: from cwgsy.net (mail.cwgsy.net [212.30.8.212]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M8tSqJ025238 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:55:30 +0700 Received: from isles.net [212.30.21.74] by cwgsy.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A7551A8F012C; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:35:33 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1CF755.5090608@isles.net> From: Nigel Roberts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alf.hansen@uninett.no CC: bart@sidn.nl, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [cctld-discuss] GG vote Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:35:33 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 680 Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no Cc: bart@sidn.nl by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this week, July 25, 2003 at 2400 CET. Identification: Your country in the European region : Bailwick of Guernsey Your European ccTLD two letter code : GG Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Island Networks Ltd Your E-mail address : networks@isles.net Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): Nigel Roberts .gg ccTLD Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 10:45:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17493 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:45:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M93YqJ025344; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:03:34 +0700 Received: from cwgsy.net (mail.cwgsy.net [212.30.8.212]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M90kqJ025306 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:00:48 +0700 Received: from isles.net [212.30.21.74] by cwgsy.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A89525C200B4; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:40:53 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1CF895.6030807@isles.net> From: Nigel Roberts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nigel Roberts CC: alf.hansen@uninett.no, bart@sidn.nl, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org References: <3F1CF755.5090608@isles.net> In-Reply-To: <3F1CF755.5090608@isles.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: GG vote Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:40:53 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 1436 Alf: While it doesn't affect the votes of my ccTLD managers (who have kindly decided to vote for me!), I don't think this election process is particularly fair or transparent on some of the other candidates who are not well known from participation in ICANN meetings. In fact, out of the list of five there is more than one name that I myself do not recognise. In all fairness, /all/ of candidates should be given the opportunity to put out a resume and a statement of their views. Otherwise those of us who are better known from the ICANN process have an unfair advantage. The votes should also be counted by an independent 3rd party IMHO as we have always done in the past. Nigel Nigel Roberts wrote: > Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no > Cc: bart@sidn.nl > > by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this week, July > 25, 2003 at 2400 CET. > > Identification: > > Your country in the European region : Bailwick of Guernsey > Your European ccTLD two letter code : GG > Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Island Networks Ltd > Your E-mail address : networks@isles.net > > Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): > > Nigel Roberts > .gg ccTLD > Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 10:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17530 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:46:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M920qJ025325; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:02:00 +0700 Received: from cwgsy.net (mail.cwgsy.net [212.30.8.212]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6M8uFqJ025246 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:56:16 +0700 Received: from isles.net [212.30.21.74] by cwgsy.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A7862CEB012A; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:36:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1CF786.7070603@isles.net> From: Nigel Roberts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alf.hansen@uninett.no CC: bart@sidn.nl, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [cctld-discuss] JE vote Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:36:22 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 686 Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no Cc: bart@sidn.nl by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this week, July 25, 2003 at 2400 CET. Identification: Your country in the European region : Bailiwick of Jersey Your European ccTLD two letter code : JE Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Island Networks (Jersey) Your E-mail address : networks@isles.net Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): Nigel Roberts .gg ccTLD Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 12:22:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20424 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:22:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MAd0qJ025820; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:39:00 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MAcOqJ025815 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:38:25 +0700 Received: from alf2 (leangen.uninett.no [158.38.60.11]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6MAILTY009489; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:18:22 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: "'Nigel Roberts'" Cc: , Subject: RE: [cctld-discuss] Re: GG vote Message-ID: <012001c3503a$94378e60$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F1CF895.6030807@isles.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:18:21 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 2516 Nigel, This is an electronic straw poll. Not an election. I would never have accepted an election executed by a couple of privat persons (like me..). If a formal election should be needed, the regional organisation, CENTR, should be the one to organise it. With Campaign statements etc. When the election of ccNSO Council members will take place, I assume CENTR will play a role in the organisation of the European part. The LG is just a bootstrap mechanism who will disappear soon. Best regards, Alf H > -----Original Message----- > From: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org > [mailto:cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts > Sent: 22. juli 2003 10:41 > To: Nigel Roberts > Cc: alf.hansen@uninett.no; bart@sidn.nl; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: GG vote > > > Alf: > > While it doesn't affect the votes of my ccTLD managers (who > have kindly > decided to vote for me!), I don't think this election process is > particularly fair or transparent on some of the other > candidates who are > not well known from participation in ICANN meetings. > > In fact, out of the list of five there is more than one name that I > myself do not recognise. > > In all fairness, /all/ of candidates should be given the > opportunity to > put out a resume and a statement of their views. > > Otherwise those of us who are better known from the ICANN > process have > an unfair advantage. > > The votes should also be counted by an independent 3rd party > IMHO as we > have always done in the past. > > > Nigel > > > Nigel Roberts wrote: > > > Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no > > Cc: bart@sidn.nl > > > > by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this > week, July > > 25, 2003 at 2400 CET. > > > > Identification: > > > > Your country in the European region : Bailwick of Guernsey > > Your European ccTLD two letter code : GG > > Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Island Networks Ltd > > Your E-mail address : networks@isles.net > > > > Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): > > > > Nigel Roberts > > .gg ccTLD > > Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cctld-discuss mailing list > cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-> discuss > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 13:00:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21378 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:00:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MBI0qJ026016; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:18:00 +0700 Received: from www.io.io (www.io.io [194.205.62.108] (may be forged)) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MBHLqJ026011 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:17:22 +0700 Received: from nic.AC ([192.168.111.3]) by www.io.io (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24278; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1D1944.2020801@nic.AC> From: Paul M Kane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alf Hansen CC: CENTR GA , cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group References: <010d01c34fe6$14e37830$163a269e@alf2> In-Reply-To: <010d01c34fe6$14e37830$163a269e@alf2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:00:20 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 5227 Alf (and Bart) In light of your published SELECTION process I would like to express my regret that the procedures for selecting the 3rd European LG member has not been as democratic as one would expect. With the ccNSO Assistance Group members being selected, then the initial LG members being selected, now the one seat being subject to an internal selection, I sincerely hope things will improve and so that the ccNSO may become more representative and legitimate. Fortunately the Launching Group has VERY limited role yet an important role to boot-strap the ccNSO membership outreach and the ELECTION process through which candidates will be chosen to the ccNSO Council. Having discussed the ELECTION procedure during the Montreal meeting, having prepared a list of European ccTLD Managers (from the recently enlarged ICANN list), having identified that the IANA list for Europe list is not up to date and taking steps to make it accurate, having reviewed the ADCOM elections CENTR conducted for the election of the European Representative (www.centr.org/elections) - I find it incredible that you have allowed a SELECTION process to be undertaken without the usual checks and balances of ensuring the election of a true representative in an open, fair and transparent process. I have to say there has been no electoral statement by all candidates, 3 of whom I do not know and they may bring unique qualities to the LG, the timing has been manipulated - Montreal was 3 weeks ago - the process could have started immediately after Montreal as described in the slide presentations during Montreal - e.g. ELECTIONS in a timely manner - with results known by the 25th. I am assuming that the Launching Group members will resign and not stand for membership of the Council, (these are the sort of statements expected in an Electoral Statement) to ensure self interest does not "cloud" non-discriminatory actions/processes of the Launching Group..... If this assumption is true and due to the very limited scope and authority of the LG and the importance getting ccNSO up and running quickly and with PROPER processes in place, it there is no alternative but to proceed with this unrepresentative SELECTION process. If the ccNSO is to have any real support/legitimacy it is of the utmost importance that the election for the members of the ccNSO Council are democratic, transparent, representative and run in a professional manner. CENTR remains willing to offer its services to the European region free from charge and has already the processes in place to provide professionally run voting mechanism. Paul Alf Hansen wrote: >Dear European ccTLD Manager, > >This is an invitation to ccTLD managers in the European region, for a >straw poll (not an election) as described in my previous message. > >Please select ONE candidate below as your preference for the position as >the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. > >The following describes the authorities of the Lauching Group (taken >from http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm ): > >"The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: > >shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with >the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, >which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" >(Resolution 03.109) > >shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures for >the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) > >shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise >engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf >of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN >body. (Resolution 03.111)." > > >Please select only ONE name by deleting all the others. > >Only ONE submission per European ccTLD Manager. > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no > Cc: bart@sidn.nl > >by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this week, July >25, 2003 at 2400 CET. > >Identification: > >Your country in the European region : >Your European ccTLD two letter code : >Your name (ccTLD Manager) : >Your E-mail address : > >Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): > > Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) > .fr ccTLD > > Nigel Roberts > .gg ccTLD > Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) > > Petr Kral > .cz ccTLD > > Jimmy Imossi > .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) > > Arno Ahornegger > Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >--------- > >Thank you for your cooperation! > >Best regards, >Alf Hansen >on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group. > >_______________________________________________ >cctld-discuss mailing list >cctld-discuss@wwtld.org >http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 13:09:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21589 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:09:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MBR1qJ026060; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:27:01 +0700 Received: from www.io.io (www.io.io [194.205.62.108] (may be forged)) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MBQdqJ026054 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:26:40 +0700 Received: from nic.AC ([192.168.111.3]) by www.io.io (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24308; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1D1B70.4080403@nic.AC> From: Paul M Kane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alf Hansen CC: "'Nigel Roberts'" , bart@sidn.nl, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Re: GG vote References: <012001c3503a$94378e60$163a269e@alf2> In-Reply-To: <012001c3503a$94378e60$163a269e@alf2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:09:36 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 2956 Thanks for this clarification Alf - you are a good guy :-) My comments of my earlier mail still stand .... I am disappointed at the lack of opportunity for a proper election to the LG Best Paul Alf Hansen wrote: >Nigel, > >This is an electronic straw poll. Not an election. I would never have >accepted an election executed by a couple of privat persons (like me..). >If a formal election should be needed, the regional organisation, CENTR, >should be the one to organise it. With Campaign statements etc. When the >election of ccNSO Council members will take place, I assume CENTR will >play a role in the organisation of the European part. The LG is just a >bootstrap mechanism who will disappear soon. > >Best regards, >Alf H > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org >>[mailto:cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts >>Sent: 22. juli 2003 10:41 >>To: Nigel Roberts >>Cc: alf.hansen@uninett.no; bart@sidn.nl; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org >>Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: GG vote >> >> >>Alf: >> >>While it doesn't affect the votes of my ccTLD managers (who >>have kindly >>decided to vote for me!), I don't think this election process is >>particularly fair or transparent on some of the other >>candidates who are >>not well known from participation in ICANN meetings. >> >>In fact, out of the list of five there is more than one name that I >>myself do not recognise. >> >>In all fairness, /all/ of candidates should be given the >>opportunity to >>put out a resume and a statement of their views. >> >>Otherwise those of us who are better known from the ICANN >>process have >>an unfair advantage. >> >>The votes should also be counted by an independent 3rd party >>IMHO as we >>have always done in the past. >> >> >>Nigel >> >> >>Nigel Roberts wrote: >> >> >> >>>Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no >>> Cc: bart@sidn.nl >>> >>>by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this >>> >>> >>week, July >> >> >>>25, 2003 at 2400 CET. >>> >>>Identification: >>> >>>Your country in the European region : Bailwick of Guernsey >>>Your European ccTLD two letter code : GG >>>Your name (ccTLD Manager) : Island Networks Ltd >>>Your E-mail address : networks@isles.net >>> >>>Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): >>> >>> Nigel Roberts >>> .gg ccTLD >>> Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>cctld-discuss mailing list >>cctld-discuss@wwtld.org >>http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-> discuss >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >cctld-discuss mailing list >cctld-discuss@wwtld.org >http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Tue Jul 22 14:49:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25220 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:49:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MD10qJ026467; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:01:01 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MCxwqJ026415 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:00:00 +0700 Received: from alf2 (leangen.uninett.no [158.38.60.11]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6MCdtTY002434; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:39:55 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: "'Paul M Kane'" Cc: "'CENTR GA'" , Subject: RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group Message-ID: <012301c3504e$5a6f4a60$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F1D1944.2020801@nic.AC> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:39:54 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 8066 Paul, The LG members are working under these conditions: "In adopting the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also adopted called for the the formation of the Launching Group. Under Resolution 03.108, the Board hereby requests the nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to call for an additional six members to join with the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance Group to form a launching group for the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the membership of which Launching Group shall be identified in writing to the Secretary within thirty days following the adoption of these resolutions; The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" (Resolution 03.109) shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN body. (Resolution 03.111)." We could have said that we do not accept these conditions. To get ccNSO up and running fast with proper and acceptable procedures is of outmost importance. Given the limited scope and timeframe for the LG, my judgement is that we have to move on, and a straw poll instead of an election is "good enough". A proper ELECTION would probably deliver too late. I agree 100% with you when it comes to the organisation of the ELECTION of the ccNSO Council which MUST be done in a democratic, transparent, representative and professional manner. And I will certainly support the view that CENTR shall participate in this process in Europe. If we see that some members of the LG are using their positions to prepare for our own opportunities instead of doing what is best for the community, I assume this will be visible, and they will not be elected to the Council. That is part of the democratic process. Best regards, Alf H > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul M Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane@nic.AC] > Sent: 22. juli 2003 13:00 > To: Alf Hansen > Cc: CENTR GA; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of > European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group > > > Alf (and Bart) > > In light of your published SELECTION process I would like to > express my regret that the procedures for selecting the 3rd > European LG member has not been as democratic as one would expect. > With the ccNSO Assistance Group members being selected, then > the initial > LG members being selected, now the one seat being subject to > an internal > selection, I sincerely hope things will improve and so that the ccNSO > may become more representative and legitimate. Fortunately > the Launching > Group has VERY limited role yet an important role to boot-strap the > ccNSO membership outreach and the ELECTION process through which > candidates will be chosen to the ccNSO Council. > > Having discussed the ELECTION procedure during the Montreal > meeting, having prepared a list of European ccTLD Managers > (from the recently enlarged ICANN list), having identified > that the IANA list for Europe list is not up to date and > taking steps to make it accurate, having reviewed the ADCOM > elections CENTR conducted for the election of the European > Representative (www.centr.org/elections) - I find it > incredible that you have allowed a SELECTION process to be > undertaken without the usual checks and balances of ensuring > the election of a true representative in an open, fair and > transparent process. > > I have to say there has been no electoral statement by all > candidates, 3 of whom I do not know and they may bring unique > qualities to the LG, the timing has been manipulated - > Montreal was 3 weeks ago - the process could have started > immediately after Montreal as described in the slide > presentations during Montreal - e.g. ELECTIONS in a timely > manner - with results known by the 25th. > > I am assuming that the Launching Group members will resign > and not stand for membership of the Council, (these are the > sort of statements expected in an Electoral Statement) to > ensure self interest does not "cloud" non-discriminatory > actions/processes of the Launching Group..... If this > assumption is true and due to the very limited scope and > authority of the LG and the importance getting ccNSO up and > running quickly and with PROPER processes in place, it there > is no alternative but to proceed with this unrepresentative > SELECTION process. > > If the ccNSO is to have any real support/legitimacy it is of > the utmost importance that the election for the members of > the ccNSO Council are democratic, transparent, representative > and run in a professional manner. CENTR remains willing to > offer its services to the European region free from charge > and has already the processes in place to provide > professionally run voting mechanism. > > Paul > > Alf Hansen wrote: > > >Dear European ccTLD Manager, > > > >This is an invitation to ccTLD managers in the European > region, for a > >straw poll (not an election) as described in my previous message. > > > >Please select ONE candidate below as your preference for the > position > >as the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. > > > >The following describes the authorities of the Lauching Group (taken > >from http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm ): > > > >"The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: > > > >shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to > join with > >the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise > the ccNSO, > >which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" > >(Resolution 03.109) > > > >shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures > >for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) > > > >shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) > otherwise > >engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select > on behalf > >of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant > in any ICANN > >body. (Resolution 03.111)." > > > > > >Please select only ONE name by deleting all the others. > > > >Only ONE submission per European ccTLD Manager. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no > > Cc: bart@sidn.nl > > > >by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this > week, July > >25, 2003 at 2400 CET. > > > >Identification: > > > >Your country in the European region : > >Your European ccTLD two letter code : > >Your name (ccTLD Manager) : > >Your E-mail address : > > > >Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): > > > > Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) > > .fr ccTLD > > > > Nigel Roberts > > .gg ccTLD > > Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) > > > > Petr Kral > > .cz ccTLD > > > > Jimmy Imossi > > .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) > > > > Arno Ahornegger > > Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > >- > >--------- > > > >Thank you for your cooperation! > > > >Best regards, > >Alf Hansen > >on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >cctld-discuss mailing list > >cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > >http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Wed Jul 23 01:31:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06030 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:31:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MNi1qJ029380; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:44:02 +0700 Received: from mail.auda.org.au (ns1.auda.org.au [203.202.88.210]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6MNhpqJ029375 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:43:52 +0700 Received: (qmail 3681 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 23:23:49 -0000 Received: from liz.auda.org.au (HELO DISSPAIN) (203.202.88.218) by queen.auda.org.au with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 23:23:49 -0000 From: "Chris Disspain" To: "'Alf Hansen'" , "'Paul M Kane'" Cc: "'CENTR GA'" , Subject: RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group Message-ID: <014b01c350a8$4ecea840$ee02a8c0@DISSPAIN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <012301c3504e$5a6f4a60$163a269e@alf2> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:23:50 +1000 Status: RO Content-Length: 9036 Paul, I may be a little confused. I understood from an email from Tim Mertens that Centr would be organising a nominee to the LG (by whatever means it wished) from among those members of Centr that nominated. If that was the only European nominee then they would become a member of the LG but if a non Centr member nominated also then the LG would need to make a choice. Is that not your understanding? Regards, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo@auda.org.au www.auda.org.au -----Original Message----- From: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org [mailto:cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org] On Behalf Of Alf Hansen Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 22:40 To: 'Paul M Kane' Cc: 'CENTR GA'; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Subject: RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group Paul, The LG members are working under these conditions: "In adopting the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also adopted called for the the formation of the Launching Group. Under Resolution 03.108, the Board hereby requests the nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to call for an additional six members to join with the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance Group to form a launching group for the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the membership of which Launching Group shall be identified in writing to the Secretary within thirty days following the adoption of these resolutions; The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" (Resolution 03.109) shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN body. (Resolution 03.111)." We could have said that we do not accept these conditions. To get ccNSO up and running fast with proper and acceptable procedures is of outmost importance. Given the limited scope and timeframe for the LG, my judgement is that we have to move on, and a straw poll instead of an election is "good enough". A proper ELECTION would probably deliver too late. I agree 100% with you when it comes to the organisation of the ELECTION of the ccNSO Council which MUST be done in a democratic, transparent, representative and professional manner. And I will certainly support the view that CENTR shall participate in this process in Europe. If we see that some members of the LG are using their positions to prepare for our own opportunities instead of doing what is best for the community, I assume this will be visible, and they will not be elected to the Council. That is part of the democratic process. Best regards, Alf H > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul M Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane@nic.AC] > Sent: 22. juli 2003 13:00 > To: Alf Hansen > Cc: CENTR GA; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of > European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group > > > Alf (and Bart) > > In light of your published SELECTION process I would like to > express my regret that the procedures for selecting the 3rd > European LG member has not been as democratic as one would expect. > With the ccNSO Assistance Group members being selected, then > the initial > LG members being selected, now the one seat being subject to > an internal > selection, I sincerely hope things will improve and so that the ccNSO > may become more representative and legitimate. Fortunately > the Launching > Group has VERY limited role yet an important role to boot-strap the > ccNSO membership outreach and the ELECTION process through which > candidates will be chosen to the ccNSO Council. > > Having discussed the ELECTION procedure during the Montreal > meeting, having prepared a list of European ccTLD Managers > (from the recently enlarged ICANN list), having identified > that the IANA list for Europe list is not up to date and > taking steps to make it accurate, having reviewed the ADCOM > elections CENTR conducted for the election of the European > Representative (www.centr.org/elections) - I find it > incredible that you have allowed a SELECTION process to be > undertaken without the usual checks and balances of ensuring > the election of a true representative in an open, fair and > transparent process. > > I have to say there has been no electoral statement by all > candidates, 3 of whom I do not know and they may bring unique > qualities to the LG, the timing has been manipulated - > Montreal was 3 weeks ago - the process could have started > immediately after Montreal as described in the slide > presentations during Montreal - e.g. ELECTIONS in a timely > manner - with results known by the 25th. > > I am assuming that the Launching Group members will resign > and not stand for membership of the Council, (these are the > sort of statements expected in an Electoral Statement) to > ensure self interest does not "cloud" non-discriminatory > actions/processes of the Launching Group..... If this > assumption is true and due to the very limited scope and > authority of the LG and the importance getting ccNSO up and > running quickly and with PROPER processes in place, it there > is no alternative but to proceed with this unrepresentative > SELECTION process. > > If the ccNSO is to have any real support/legitimacy it is of > the utmost importance that the election for the members of > the ccNSO Council are democratic, transparent, representative > and run in a professional manner. CENTR remains willing to > offer its services to the European region free from charge > and has already the processes in place to provide > professionally run voting mechanism. > > Paul > > Alf Hansen wrote: > > >Dear European ccTLD Manager, > > > >This is an invitation to ccTLD managers in the European > region, for a > >straw poll (not an election) as described in my previous message. > > > >Please select ONE candidate below as your preference for the > position > >as the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. > > > >The following describes the authorities of the Lauching Group (taken > >from http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm ): > > > >"The Board further resolved that the Launching Group: > > > >shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to > join with > >the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise > the ccNSO, > >which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" > >(Resolution 03.109) > > > >shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures > >for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) > > > >shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) > otherwise > >engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select > on behalf > >of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant > in any ICANN > >body. (Resolution 03.111)." > > > > > >Please select only ONE name by deleting all the others. > > > >Only ONE submission per European ccTLD Manager. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Please return To: alf.hansen@uninett.no > > Cc: bart@sidn.nl > > > >by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this > week, July > >25, 2003 at 2400 CET. > > > >Identification: > > > >Your country in the European region : > >Your European ccTLD two letter code : > >Your name (ccTLD Manager) : > >Your E-mail address : > > > >Your candidate of preference (delete all but one): > > > > Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) > > .fr ccTLD > > > > Nigel Roberts > > .gg ccTLD > > Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe) > > > > Petr Kral > > .cz ccTLD > > > > Jimmy Imossi > > .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) > > > > Arno Ahornegger > > Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > >- > >--------- > > > >Thank you for your cooperation! > > > >Best regards, > >Alf Hansen > >on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >cctld-discuss mailing list > >cctld-discuss@wwtld.org > >http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Fri Jul 25 02:35:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA09192 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:35:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6OFg1qJ007341; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:42:03 +0700 Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6OFfiqJ007336 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:41:46 +0700 Received: from alf2 ([IPv6:::1]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OFLLTY006140; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:21:21 +0200 From: "Alf Hansen" To: "CENTR GA" , Cc: Message-ID: <019001c351f7$3b085680$163a269e@alf2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0191_01C35207.FE912680" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [cctld-discuss] Straw poll process cancelled, selction of the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group. Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:21:18 +0200 Status: RO Content-Length: 30433 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0191_01C35207.FE912680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear European ccTLD managers, As you all have seen the time frame for delivering a name to ICANN has been extended with one week, and there is now time to hold a proper election. CENTR has accepted the invitation to conduct the election, and there is no need for the straw poll process started this week. I hereby cancel the straw poll proccess. I will delete alle the received straw -votes and Bart will do the same. Those who have sent me straw-votes must participate in the election organised by CENTR if they want their votes to be counted. Now we have time to do this properly, and show that it is possible for the private sector to conduct a democratic, transparent and representative election in a professional and effective way. When it comes to the election of ccNSO council members at a later stage, this will be even more important. Best regards, Alf H -----Original Message----- From: ga-bounces+alf.hansen=uninett.no@lists.centr.org [mailto:ga-bounces+alf.hansen=uninett.no@lists.centr.org] On Behalf Of Paul M Kane Sent: 24. juli 2003 12:07 To: Chris Disspain Cc: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org; 'CENTR GA'; 'Paul M Kane'; gm@centr.org Subject: Re: [centr-ga] European member of ccNSO Launching Group Many thanks Chris Yes CENTR is pleased to accept this invitation to condut a proper election. Please see http://www.centr.org/elections/ for more details We invite the 5 candidates to submit eletoral statements as soon as possible. Ballot papers will be sent by email tomorrow (Friday 25th July). Nomination period CLOSED - (18th July 2003) Period for making election statements closes - 25th July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT) Voting commences - 26 July 2003 Voting closes - 31st July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT) Confirmation of result - 1st August 2003 Trust this is helpful Paul Chris Disspain wrote: Dear Tim and Paul, As you know, at its 26 June 2003 meeting, the ICANN Board adopted under resolution 03.106 the amendments to the bylaws for the formation of the ccNSO. In adoption of the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also called for the formation f the Launching Group (resolution 03.108). The resolution requested the "nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to call for an additional six members to join with the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance Group to form a launching group for the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the members of which Launching Group shall be identified in writing to the Secretary within thirty days following the adoption of these resolutions;" On 9 July 2003 there was a call for expressions of interest for the following number of additions from the following regions to the ccNSO Launching Group . 1 from Asia Pacific 1 from Europe 2 from North America 2 from Africa Five expressions of interest were received from the European Region. The expressions of interest were from: 1) Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) .fr ccTLD 2) Nigel Roberts .gg ccTLD 3) Petr Kral .cz ccTLD 4) Jimmy Imossi .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) 5) Arno Ahornegger Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration The 9 members initial members of the Launching Group appreciate CENTR's offer to work with membership (and non-CENTR European ccTLD managers) in the European region to determine whether a single candidate from the existing list of expressions of interest will be put forward as a recommendation. Such a recommendation must be received by 1 August 2003, 22:00 UTC. Please note that this determination should be based only on the list of candidates expressing interest listed above. If those above that submitted expressions of interest do not wish to engage in a process to allow CENTR and non-CENTR European members to put forward collectively a recommendation for a single candidate, they can advise the 9 initial members of the Launching Group. Once the 1 August deadline has passed, if there is more than one candidate for Europe, the Launching Group will select a member from Europe. The Launching Group must notify the ICANN Secretary of the additional European member by 4 August. For clarity, please note that the Launching Group has a very limited role, namely: - solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined; (Resolution 03.109) - establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110) It does not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN body. (Resolution 03.111). Kind regards, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo@auda.org.au www.auda.org.au ------=_NextPart_000_0191_01C35207.FE912680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Dear=20 European ccTLD managers,
 
As you=20 all have seen the time frame for delivering a name to ICANN has = been=20 extended with one week, and there is now time to hold a proper election. = CENTR=20 has accepted the invitation to conduct the election, and there is no = need for=20 the straw poll process started this week.
 
I=20 hereby cancel the straw poll proccess. I will delete alle the received = straw=20 -votes and Bart will do the same. Those who have sent me = straw-votes must=20 participate in the election organised by CENTR if they want their votes = to be=20 counted.
 
Now we=20 have time to do this properly, and show that it is possible for the = private=20 sector to conduct a democratic, transparent and = representative=20 election in a professional and effective way. When it comes to the = election of=20 ccNSO council members at a later stage, this will be even more=20 important.
 
Best=20 regards,
Alf=20 H
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 ga-bounces+alf.hansen=3Duninett.no@lists.centr.org=20 [mailto:ga-bounces+alf.hansen=3Duninett.no@lists.centr.org] On Behalf = Of=20 Paul M Kane
Sent: 24. juli 2003 12:07
To: Chris=20 Disspain
Cc: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org; 'CENTR GA'; 'Paul M = Kane';=20 gm@centr.org
Subject: Re: [centr-ga] European member of ccNSO=20 Launching Group

Many thanks Chris

Yes CENTR = is=20 pleased to accept this invitation to condut a proper = election.

Please see=20 http://www.centr.org/elections/<= /A> for=20 more details

We invite the 5 candidates to submit eletoral = statements as=20 soon as possible.  Ballot papers will be sent by email tomorrow = (Friday=20 25th July).

Nomination period CLOSED - (18th July 2003)
Period = for=20 making election statements closes - 25th July 2003 (Midnight = UT0/GMT)
Voting=20 commences - 26 July 2003
Voting closes - 31st July 2003 (Midnight=20 UT0/GMT)
Confirmation of result - 1st August 2003

Trust this = is=20 helpful

Paul

Chris Disspain wrote:

Dear=20 Tim and Paul,

As=20 you know, at its 26 June 2003 meeting, the = ICANN=20 Board = adopted=20 under

resolution 03.106 = the=20 amendments to the bylaws for the formation of = the

ccNSO.=20 In adoption of the amendments to the bylaws, the=20 Board also=20 called

for the formation = f the=20 Launching Group (resolution 03.108). The = resolution

requested=20 the

"nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO=20 Assistance Group to call for an = additional

six members to = join with=20 the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance = Group=20 to

form a launching = group for=20 the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the members = of

which Launching = Group shall=20 be identified in writing to the Secretary within

thirty days = following the=20 adoption of these resolutions;"

On=20 9 = July=20 2003 there was a call for expressions of = interest for=20 the

following number = of=20 additions from the following regions to the ccNSO

Launching Group

<http= ://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm>.

1=20 from Asia=20 Pacific

1=20 from=20 = Europe=

2=20 from North=20 America

2=20 from=20 = Africa=

Five=20 expressions of interest were received from the European Region.=20 The

expressions of = interest=20 were from:

1)=20 Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent=20 AFNIC)

.fr ccTLD

2)=20 Nigel Roberts

.gg ccTLD

  =20

3)=20 Petr Kral

.cz ccTLD

4)=20 Jimmy Imossi

.gi ccTLD   (will appoint = someone to=20 represent them)

5)=20 Arno Ahornegger

Vienna=20 = University= =20 of Economics and Business Administration

The=20 9 members initial members of the Launching = Group=20 appreciate CENTR's

offer to work = with=20 membership (and non-CENTR European ccTLD = managers)=20 in the

European region to determine whether a = single=20 candidate from the existing

list of = expressions of=20 interest will be put forward as a = recommendation.

Such=20 a recommendation must be received by 1 August 2003,=20 22:00 = UTC.=20

Please note that this determination should = be based=20 only on the list of candidates

expressing = interest listed=20 above.

If=20 those above that submitted expressions of interest=20 do

not wish to = engage in a=20 process to allow CENTR and non-CENTR European

members to put = forward=20 collectively a recommendation for a single = candidate,

they can advise = the 9=20 initial members of the Launching Group. Once the = 1

August deadline has passed, if there is more = than one=20 candidate for = Europe,=20 the

Launching Group will select a member from=20 = Europe.

The=20 Launching Group must =  notify the=20 ICANN Secretary of the

additional = European member=20  by 4 August.

For=20 clarity, please note that the Launching Group has a very limited role, = namely:=20

-=20 solicit additional ccTLD managers to join = with the=20 members of such

Launching Group to eventually comprise the = ccNSO, which shall be=20 deemed

constituted once = thirty=20 members have joined; (Resolution 03.109)

-=20 establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial = ccNSO

Council; (Resolution=20 03.110)

It=20 does not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP=20 or (b) otherwise

engage in = development of=20 substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of

the ccNSO any director or observer or other = participant in any=20 ICANN body.

(Resolution=20 03.111).

Kind=20 regards,

Chris Disspain

CEO - auDA

ceo@auda.org.au

www.auda.org.au

------=_NextPart_000_0191_01C35207.FE912680-- _______________________________________________ cctld-discuss mailing list cctld-discuss@wwtld.org http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss From cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Fri Jul 25 02:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from www.wwtld.org ([203.146.102.11]) by balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA09232 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:41:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.wwtld.org (www.wwtld.org [127.0.0.1]) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6OAP2qJ006099; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:25:03 +0700 Received: from www.io.io (www.io.io [194.205.62.108] (may be forged)) by www.wwtld.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6OAOPqJ006092 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:24:27 +0700 Received: from nic.AC ([192.168.111.3]) by www.io.io (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA02203; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:16:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3F1FAFB8.5010808@nic.AC> From: Paul M Kane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Disspain CC: gm@centr.org, "'Paul M Kane'" , "'CENTR GA'" , cctld-discuss@wwtld.org References: <000601c35190$3cccefb0$ee02a8c0@DISSPAIN> In-Reply-To: <000601c35190$3cccefb0$ee02a8c0@DISSPAIN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060604000307080204050809" Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: [centr-ga] European member of ccNSO Launching Group Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org Errors-To: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org X-BeenThere: cctld-discuss@wwtld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:06:48 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 26102 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060604000307080204050809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks Chris Yes CENTR is pleased to accept this invitation to condut a proper election. Please see http://www.centr.org/elections/ for more details We invite the 5 candidates to submit eletoral statements as soon as possible. Ballot papers will be sent by email tomorrow (Friday 25th July). Nomination period CLOSED - (18th July 2003) Period for making election statements closes - 25th July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT) Voting commences - 26 July 2003 Voting closes - 31st July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT) Confirmation of result - 1st August 2003 Trust this is helpful Paul Chris Disspain wrote: > Dear Tim and Paul, > > > > As you know, at its 26 June 2003 meeting, the ICANN Board adopted under > > resolution 03.106 the amendments to the bylaws for the formation of the > > ccNSO. In adoption of the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also called > > for the formation f the Launching Group (resolution 03.108). The > resolution > > requested the > > > > "nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to call for an > additional > > six members to join with the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance Group to > > form a launching group for the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the members of > > which Launching Group shall be identified in writing to the Secretary > within > > thirty days following the adoption of these resolutions;" > > > > On 9 July 2003 there was a call for expressions of interest for the > > following number of additions from the following regions to the ccNSO > > Launching Group > > . > > > > 1 from Asia Pacific > > 1 from Europe > > 2 from North America > > 2 from Africa > > > > Five expressions of interest were received from the European Region. The > > expressions of interest were from: > > > > 1) Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC) > > .fr ccTLD > > > > 2) Nigel Roberts > > .gg ccTLD > > > > 3) Petr Kral > > .cz ccTLD > > > > 4) Jimmy Imossi > > .gi ccTLD (will appoint someone to represent them) > > > > 5) Arno Ahornegger > > Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration > > > > The 9 members initial members of the Launching Group appreciate CENTR's > > offer to work with membership (and non-CENTR European ccTLD managers) > in the > > European region to determine whether a single candidate from the existing > > list of expressions of interest will be put forward as a recommendation. > > Such a recommendation must be received by 1 August 2003, 22:00 UTC. > > > > Please note that this determination should be based only on the list > of candidates > > expressing interest listed above. > > > > If those above that submitted expressions of interest do > > not wish to engage in a process to allow CENTR and non-CENTR European > > members to put forward collectively a recommendation for a single > candidate, > > they can advise the 9 initial members of the Launching Group. Once the 1 > > August deadline has passed, if there is more than one candidate for > Europe, the > > Launching Group will select a member from Europe. > > > > The Launching Group must notify the ICANN Secretary of the > > additional European member by 4 August. > > > > For clarity, please note that the Launching Group has a very limited > role, namely: > > > > - solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with the members of such > > Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO, which shall be deemed > > constituted once thirty members have joined; (Resolution 03.109) > > > > - establish a schedule and procedures for the selection of the initial > ccNSO > > Council; (Resolution 03.110) > > > > It does not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise > > engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf of > > the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN body. > > (Resolution 03.111). > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Chris Disspain > > CEO - auDA > > ceo@auda.org.au > > www.auda.org.au > > > > > --------------060604000307080204050809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks Chris

Yes CENTR is pleased to accept this invitation to condut a proper election.

Please see http://www.centr.org/elections/ for more details

We invite the 5 candidates to submit eletoral statements as soon as possible.  Ballot papers will be sent by email tomorrow (Friday 25th July).

Nomination period CLOSED - (18th July 2003)
Period for making election statements closes - 25th July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT)
Voting commences - 26 July 2003
Voting closes - 31st July 2003 (Midnight UT0/GMT)
Confirmation of result - 1st August 2003

Trust this is helpful

Paul

Chris Disspain wrote:

Dear Tim and Paul,

 

As you know, at its 26 June 2003 meeting, the ICANN Board adopted under

resolution 03.106 the amendments to the bylaws for the formation of the

ccNSO. In adoption of the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also called

for the formation f the Launching Group (resolution 03.108). The resolution

requested the

 

"nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to call for an additional

six members to join with the nine ccTLD members of the Assistance Group to

form a launching group for the ccNSO ("Launching Group"), the members of

which Launching Group shall be identified in writing to the Secretary within

thirty days following the adoption of these resolutions;"

 

On 9 July 2003 there was a call for expressions of interest for the

following number of additions from the following regions to the ccNSO

Launching Group

<http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm>.

 

1 from Asia Pacific

1 from Europe

2 from North America

2 from Africa

 

Five expressions of interest were received from the European Region. The

expressions of interest were from:

 

1) Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC)

.fr ccTLD

 

2) Nigel Roberts

.gg ccTLD

  

3) Petr Kral

.cz ccTLD

 

4) Jimmy Imossi

.gi ccTLD   (will appoint someone to represent them)

 

5) Arno Ahornegger

Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration

 

The 9 members initial members of the Launching Group appreciate CENTR's

offer to work with membership (and non-CENTR European ccTLD managers) in the

European region to determine whether a single candidate from the existing

list