wwTLD/ccTLD list archives


<<< Chronological Index >>>    <<< Thread Index >>>

Re: [centr-ga] RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selectionof European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group

  • To: Chris Disspain <ceo@auda.org.au>
  • Subject: Re: [centr-ga] RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selectionof European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group
  • From: Nigel Roberts <nigel@isles.net>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:57:37 +0100
  • CC: "'Paul M Kane'" <Paul.Kane@nic.ac>, cctld-discuss@wwtld.org, "'CENTR GA'" <ga@centr.org>, "'Alf Hansen'" <alf.hansen@uninett.no>
  • In-Reply-To: <01ca01c350ee$20c7a820$ee02a8c0@DISSPAIN>
  • List-Archive: <http://www.wwtld.org/pipermail/cctld-discuss/>
  • List-Help: <mailto:cctld-discuss-request@wwtld.org?subject=help>
  • List-Id: cctld-discuss mailing list <cctld-discuss.wwtld.org>
  • List-Post: <mailto:cctld-discuss@wwtld.org>
  • List-Subscribe: <http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss>,<mailto:cctld-discuss-request@wwtld.org?subject=subscribe>
  • List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.wwtld.org/mailman/listinfo/cctld-discuss>,<mailto:cctld-discuss-request@wwtld.org?subject=unsubscribe>
  • References: <01ca01c350ee$20c7a820$ee02a8c0@DISSPAIN>
  • Sender: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org
  • User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612

My understanding, based on what the ccTLD Constituency of the DNSO has 
done in the past is that CENTR does NOT 'speak for Europe' -- but as a 
neutral third party in the Region organises elections to which ALL ccTLD 
managers in the region can participate.

That is certainly the mechanism used when I was initially selected as 
ICANN ccTLD Constituency adCom rep for Europe a couple of years ago.


Chris Disspain wrote:

> Paul,
> The problem is that Centr cannot speak for those in Europe who are not
> members unless they consent to Centr doing so.
> Say that Gwandana is in the Euro region and for whatever reason does not
> want to be involved in Centr. As an individual cc within the region they
> are entitled to nominate direct to the LG if they wish and not take part
> in any election run by Centr. Now, whether or not they would get onto
> the LG given that a majority of those ccs in Europe have nominated a
> candidate through Centr is another question. But it is hardly fair to
> suggest an introverted approach is being used here. 
> The current LG membership is having a conference call today and we will
> discuss (doubtless at length) the situation. Hopefully we can reach a
> solution that is acceptable.
> Regards,
> Chris Disspain
> CEO - auDA
> ceo@auda.org.au
> www.auda.org.au
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane@nic.AC] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:25
> To: Chris Disspain
> Cc: 'Alf Hansen'; 'Paul M Kane'; 'CENTR GA'; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org
> Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European
> candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group
> Hi Chris
> Chris Disspain wrote:
>>I may be a little confused. I understood from an email from Tim Mertens
>>that Centr would be organizing a nominee to the LG (by whatever means
> it
>>wished) from among those members of Centr that nominated. 
> Indeed and Tim was clear (following a recommendation of a CENTR Board 
> Meeting) that we would hold an ELECTION for the European Region (not 
> only CENTR members) both for the LG and for the Council.  CENTR staff 
> have been working to that end - making sure the process is open, 
> inclusive and as transparent as possible.
> The size of the European Region has been increased dramatically by ICANN
> - every ccTLD manager is equally important - and I find it offensive 
> that self-selection by the "inner-circle" is still in-vogue when we are 
> trying to make the ccNSO as inclusive as possible and be seen to be 
> responsible and responsive to the vagaries of diversity - cultural, 
> legal and electorate diversity.
>>If that was
>>the only European nominee then they would become a member of the LG but
>>if a non Centr member nominated also then the LG would need to make a
>>choice. Is that not your understanding?
> No.  The LG should not be self selecting it's membership - and the 
> European Region is now 75 ccTLDs so it is more than CENTR's membership 
> (- although CENTR membership is increasing).  There are 5 candidates in 
> Europe, 3 of whom are not known to many ccTLD Managers in Europe.  How 
> can any person either through the LG self selecting or an election, 
> choose a REPRESENTATIVE where information is not know about the 
> candidate.  Further emphasizing the need for a proper process of
> election.
> I hope this clarifies my understanding, and I sincerely hope this 
> introverted approach to diversity that has dogged ICANN in the past will
> stop - so that we may move forward with issues of substance that are 
> truly global.
> Best regards
> Paul

cctld-discuss mailing list

<<< Chronological Index >>>    <<< Thread Index >>>