RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group

["Chris Disspain" <ceo@auda.org.au>]

Paul,

I may be a little confused. I understood from an email from Tim Mertens
that Centr would be organising a nominee to the LG (by whatever means it
wished) from among those members of Centr that nominated. If that was
the only European nominee then they would become a member of the LG but
if a non Centr member nominated also then the LG would need to make a
choice. Is that not your understanding?

Regards,

Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
ceo@auda.org.au
www.auda.org.au
 

-----Original Message-----
From: cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org
[mailto:cctld-discuss-admin@wwtld.org] On Behalf Of Alf Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 22:40
To: 'Paul M Kane'
Cc: 'CENTR GA'; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org
Subject: RE: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of European
candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group

Paul,

The LG members are working under these conditions:

"In adopting the amendments to the bylaws, the Board also adopted called
for the the formation of the Launching Group. Under Resolution 03.108,
the Board

hereby requests the nine ccTLD members of the ccNSO Assistance Group to
call for an additional six members to join with the nine ccTLD members
of the Assistance Group to form a launching group for the ccNSO
("Launching Group"), the membership of which Launching Group shall be
identified in writing to the Secretary within thirty days following the
adoption of these resolutions;

The Board further resolved that the Launching Group:

shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to join with
the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise the ccNSO,
which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;"
(Resolution 03.109)

shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures for
the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110)

shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) otherwise
engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select on behalf
of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant in any ICANN
body. (Resolution 03.111)."


We could have said that we do not accept these conditions. To get ccNSO
up and running fast with proper and acceptable procedures is of outmost
importance. Given the limited scope and timeframe for the LG, my
judgement is that we have to move on, and a straw poll instead of an
election is "good enough". A proper ELECTION would probably deliver too
late.

I agree 100% with you when it comes to the organisation of the ELECTION
of the ccNSO Council which MUST be done in a democratic, transparent,
representative and professional manner. And I will certainly support the
view that CENTR shall participate in this process in Europe.

If we see that some members of the LG are using their positions to
prepare for our own opportunities instead of doing what is best for the
community, I assume this will be visible, and they will not be elected
to the Council. That is part of the democratic process.

Best regards,
Alf H





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane@nic.AC] 
> Sent: 22. juli 2003 13:00
> To: Alf Hansen
> Cc: CENTR GA; cctld-discuss@wwtld.org
> Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Ballot, Straw poll, selection of 
> European candidate, 3rd member of the ccNSO Launching Group
> 
> 
> Alf (and Bart)
> 
> In light of your published SELECTION process I would like to 
> express my regret that the procedures for selecting the 3rd 
> European LG member has not been as democratic as one would expect. 
> With the ccNSO Assistance Group members being selected, then 
> the initial 
> LG members being selected, now the one seat being subject to 
> an internal 
> selection, I sincerely hope things will improve and so that the ccNSO 
> may become more representative and legitimate. Fortunately 
> the Launching 
> Group has VERY limited role yet an important role to boot-strap the 
> ccNSO membership outreach and the ELECTION process through which 
> candidates will be chosen to the ccNSO Council. 
> 
> Having discussed the ELECTION procedure during the Montreal 
> meeting, having prepared a list of European ccTLD Managers 
> (from the recently enlarged ICANN list), having identified 
> that the IANA list for Europe list is not up to date and 
> taking steps to make it accurate, having reviewed the ADCOM 
> elections CENTR conducted for the election of the European 
> Representative (www.centr.org/elections) - I find it 
> incredible that you have allowed a SELECTION process to be 
> undertaken without the usual checks and balances of ensuring 
> the election of a true representative in an open, fair and 
> transparent process.
> 
> I have to say there has been no electoral statement by all 
> candidates, 3 of whom I do not know and they may bring unique 
> qualities to the LG, the timing has been manipulated - 
> Montreal was 3 weeks ago - the process could have started 
> immediately after Montreal as described in the slide 
> presentations during Montreal - e.g. ELECTIONS in a timely 
> manner - with results known by the 25th.
> 
> I am assuming that the Launching Group members will resign 
> and not stand for membership of the Council, (these are the 
> sort of statements expected in an Electoral Statement) to 
> ensure self interest does not "cloud" non-discriminatory 
> actions/processes of the Launching Group.....  If this 
> assumption is true and due to the very limited scope and 
> authority of the LG and the importance getting ccNSO up and 
> running quickly and with PROPER processes in place, it there 
> is no alternative but to proceed with this unrepresentative 
> SELECTION process.
> 
> If the ccNSO is to have any real support/legitimacy it is of 
> the utmost importance that the election for the members of 
> the ccNSO Council are democratic, transparent, representative 
> and run in a professional manner.  CENTR remains willing to 
> offer its services to the European region free from charge 
> and has already the processes in place to provide 
> professionally run voting mechanism.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Alf Hansen wrote:
> 
> >Dear European ccTLD Manager,
> >
> >This is an invitation to ccTLD managers in the European 
> region, for a 
> >straw poll (not an election) as described in my previous message.
> >
> >Please select ONE candidate below as your preference for the 
> position 
> >as the 3rd European member of the ccNSO Launching Group.
> >
> >The following describes the authorities of the Lauching Group (taken 
> >from http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-09jul03.htm ):
> >
> >"The Board further resolved that the Launching Group:
> >
> >shall have authority to solicit additional ccTLD managers to 
> join with 
> >the members of such Launching Group to eventually comprise 
> the ccNSO, 
> >which shall be deemed constituted once thirty members have joined;" 
> >(Resolution 03.109)
> >
> >shall also have the authority to establish a schedule and procedures 
> >for the selection of the initial ccNSO Council; (Resolution 03.110)
> >
> >shall not have the authority (a) to initiate a ccPDP or (b) 
> otherwise 
> >engage in development of substantive policies, or (c) select 
> on behalf 
> >of the ccNSO any director or observer or other participant 
> in any ICANN 
> >body. (Resolution 03.111)."
> >
> >
> >Please select only ONE name by deleting all the others.
> >
> >Only ONE submission per European ccTLD Manager.
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Please return To:   alf.hansen@uninett.no
> >              Cc:   bart@sidn.nl
> >
> >by email a.s.a.p. and no later than the end of Friday this 
> week, July 
> >25, 2003 at 2400 CET.
> >
> >Identification:
> >
> >Your country in the European region   : 
> >Your European ccTLD two letter code   : 
> >Your name (ccTLD Manager)             : 
> >Your E-mail address                   :
> >
> >Your candidate of preference (delete all but one):
> >
> >   Olivier Guillard (appointed to represent AFNIC)
> >   .fr ccTLD
> >
> >   Nigel Roberts
> >   .gg ccTLD 
> >   Member, wwtld AdCom (Europe)
> >
> >   Petr Kral
> >   .cz ccTLD
> >
> >   Jimmy Imossi
> >   .gi ccTLD   (will appoint someone to represent them) 
> >
> >   Arno Ahornegger
> >   Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >-
> >---------
> >
> >Thank you for your cooperation!
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Alf Hansen
> >on behalf of the two European members of the ccNSO Launching Group.
> >
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> >
> >  
> >
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